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authorToke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk>2025-04-03 20:39:28 +0200
committerJohannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>2025-04-23 15:22:11 +0200
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Revert "mac80211: Dynamically set CoDel parameters per station"
This reverts commit 484a54c2e597dbc4ace79c1687022282905afba0. The CoDel parameter change essentially disables CoDel on slow stations, with some questionable assumptions, as Dave pointed out in [0]. Quoting from there: But here are my pithy comments as to why this part of mac80211 is so wrong... static void sta_update_codel_params(struct sta_info *sta, u32 thr) { - if (thr && thr < STA_SLOW_THRESHOLD * sta->local->num_sta) { 1) sta->local->num_sta is the number of associated, rather than active, stations. "Active" stations in the last 50ms or so, might have been a better thing to use, but as most people have far more than that associated, we end up with really lousy codel parameters, all the time. Mistake numero uno! 2) The STA_SLOW_THRESHOLD was completely arbitrary in 2016. - sta->cparams.target = MS2TIME(50); This, by itself, was probably not too bad. 30ms might have been better, at the time, when we were battling powersave etc, but 20ms was enough, really, to cover most scenarios, even where we had low rate 2Ghz multicast to cope with. Even then, codel has a hard time finding any sane drop rate at all, with a target this high. - sta->cparams.interval = MS2TIME(300); But this was horrible, a total mistake, that is leading to codel being completely ineffective in almost any scenario on clients or APS. 100ms, even 80ms, here, would be vastly better than this insanity. I'm seeing 5+seconds of delay accumulated in a bunch of otherwise happily fq-ing APs.... 100ms of observed jitter during a flow is enough. Certainly (in 2016) there were interactions with powersave that I did not understand, and still don't, but if you are transmitting in the first place, powersave shouldn't be a problemmmm..... - sta->cparams.ecn = false; At the time we were pretty nervous about ecn, I'm kind of sanguine about it now, and reliably indicating ecn seems better than turning it off for any reason. [...] In production, on p2p wireless, I've had 8ms and 80ms for target and interval for years now, and it works great. I think Dave's arguments above are basically sound on the face of it, and various experimentation with tighter CoDel parameters in the OpenWrt community have show promising results[1]. So I don't think there's any reason to keep this parameter fiddling; hence this revert. [0] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-wireless/CAA93jw6NJ2cmLmMauz0xAgC2MGbBq6n0ZiZzAdkK0u4b+O2yXg@mail.gmail.com/ [1] https://forum.openwrt.org/t/reducing-multiplexing-latencies-still-further-in-wifi/133605/130 Suggested-By: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> In-memory-of: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> Signed-off-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> Link: https://patch.msgid.link/20250403183930.197716-1-toke@toke.dk Signed-off-by: Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@intel.com>
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